What your boyfriend is doing is totally not how it has to be. When your boyfriend stops making an effort, there may be a good reason behind it. When Dad was having a pity party, I flat out told him that he had driven her away with his constant controlling and put downs. He wants LW to do these things so he doesnt have to deal with depressed LW (he thinks). Tell your boyfriend that you feel scared and rejected when he doesn't call or text, because you're worried he's not interested anymore (if that's how you feel). And he gets a positive comment from me every time I am aware. Now youre healing and getting better, and he doesnt have the control he used to! You can also find out through careful observation of his actions. The first thing you need to do is figure out what's bothering him or if he has a problem that isn't about you. He (and my Dad!) If he makes you feel like crap about yourself, then you will feel like no one else will want to be with you. Remote kissing device for long-distance lovers, invented and patented by Chinese university student in Changzhou City.The mouth-shaped module, served as an inducing area . He may be feeling like he is missing out on his life and it is time to get back into the single life. Sometimes it feels like Im absorbing the sun like a reptile or a solar panel. In some cases, thats true. My boyfriend is having problems with his family and some others issues. This helped my husband and I when I was diagnosed with Anxiety Disorder. Feeling upset with the situation that your partner is not healthy? You are the boss of you. Good luck LW, and I hope you get to see how much better life can be when someone isnt actively holding back your awesomeness. When your brain says ok, Im done exercising today, and instead of that being paired with anticipation of his disapproval, there is just sweet, sweet self-accepting silence. This would be crappy behavior from a parent toward a child, even. My next question is maybe an obvious one, but what would happen if you didnt have a self-appointed expert on you and what you should be doing jump down your throat about all of your life choices or give you the silent treatment in your life at all? That creates tremendous pressure on you and just makes you feel shitty about yourself. And not, like, a GOOD parent, either. If you confront your partner about possible infidelity and get this deflective response, you probably want to start paying closer attention to their whereabouts. My jaded self is all "Flee! Maybe I can step on fewer landmines by keeping it in mind. It took me over 12 years to learn that. Terrified. Weve never reached a good resolution about this, and it keeps coming up. Actual logic is about statements, facts, reasons, not about How Logical I Am. A lot of times he may have hinted you before that there was something that bothered him. Yes. If you suggest doing something with him or if he is the one to bring it up, he will always say maybe. He didnt like how I looked, how I liked to dress, how I acted or thought or analyzed media. If LW says If you give him space, make yourself busy and happy. One day, I might even believe it. Seriously. He assumes you want to understand things as exhaustively as he wants to, so (if you have asked about a thing, like say directions or a computer how-to) he goes ON and ON into tiny details unless you stop him. Sure, its better if you are exercising and eating vegetables I guess, but if you dont thats fine youre great anyway. And when everything was totalled up the answer was no. What could have turned him off about you in particular? Couldnt. As I was reading the original letter, I was thinking that the question ought to be how to break up with him. He still has episodes but they are further apart and not as bad when they happen, because a big chunk of the emotional part of his depression was seated in a feeling of helplessness, and owning his own stuff made him feel competent. Loving yourself is the most important love of all. Look again at your list the next day and revise it. How does this affect you? It makes me feel bad when you dont eat your vegetables because I caaaaaaaaaaare about you.. It also sounds like massive hyperbole. Trouble sleeping. He no longer answers his phone as quickly as before. Do either of you even know whether those goals are achievable? You can also go to the civil route and try and sue him for it since it is in your name and belongs to you. Look, Im sure there are people out there who respond to tough love or whatever bullshit he thinks he is doing, but frankly, Ive never met someone struggling with depression and low self-esteem who did. You deserve to be with someone who shows you respect who likes you the way you are, who isnt always trying to fix you and who listens when you ask him to stop certain behaviours rather than telling you your request is ridiculous. I hope your boyfriend comes around, but I offer you my best wishes and confidence in your judgment no matter whether he does or not. First, he says its the stupidest thing hes ever heard. Now is *not* the time for someone to run a ledger of all your supposed daily transgressions and fuck the idea of the ledger in the first place. Whether its work, school, friends, or something else entirely that is causing him so much stress and concern that he cant even find the time to put in at least some kind of minimal effort for his girlfriend, put yourself in his shoes and be understanding. When I look back, I wonder, why did I ever even get in his car without making him tell me a destination? I wish Id seen the light a good couple of yeard before I did although I did find I had no guilt whatsoever or any what ifs as I had tried everything. The impression Im getting from your letter is your boyfriends goals are mostly about him, and making him feel good and making him look good. Best weekend alone ever! From what you are saying, I sense that no matter what happens with you, he will likely always want to maintain that edge and actually doesnt have the goal of you two being on the same level. You can also use the online chat. Third, I think some disaster preparedness is good self-care for you. Take a step back, and allow the other person to show you what they want. Your boyfriends Exercise more! Does he want you to be happy and comfortable in your own body; or is he looking for A Girlfriend Who Matches The Public Beauty Ideal? No amount of broccoli is going to make you a better or worse person, and they are not giving out Perfect Most Understanding Trying Hardest Enough Girlfriend awards (and even if they were, itd be a shitty reward, like a 10% off coupon to some restaurant you dont want to go to anyhow, and not a spaceship like we were promised). There are certainly some grave warning signs here the passive aggression being one of them; its so easy to let someone know how little you mean to them by ignoring them in the day to day, withdrawing affection and communication. ME. Not bully me or harangue me into preparing something for myself but actually sit me down and put a plate in front of me. And the autocorrect version.). You know what, these are things that I have my therapist/doctor to advise me about. The reason why he stopped making an effort might be because he no longer feels like theres a future between the both of you. True story: I knew I needed to break up with my exboyfriend when I started composing Captain Awkward letters in my head. As a result, I let him pick most of our destinations for dates, because I wasnt going to invite him someplace and then push him to pay for me. Heres my own take-away from my therapist: Your thoughts and your feelings are valid and welcome! Took about two years for me to believe that sentence. They feel like Im not happy isnt enough, especially if they suffer from low self esteem. Or maybe his own shortcomings as a helper? One of our deepest needs as humans is to feel understood, and true understanding is not possible without empathy. Or maybe your boyfriend hasnt really been invested from the beginning and what seemed like an effort on his part was simply because he felt obliged to try since you gave him such strong signals early on. It is possible that he can be moved out of the fixer mode, but, if he stays in fixer mode then nothing will ever be enough. May I just say that I love the analogy of a starter husband the one that makes you learn what to look out for next time. Focus on your job/school/career/interests/hobbies/family/friends because this will make you a lot more interesting. Of course you want him to make an effort to wine and dine you; his time, effort, and energy shows he cares about you. But as things progressed, he developed this habit of picking me up and driving me someplace without telling me where we were going, because it was a surprise. 19 times out of 20, it would be one of the handful of places we always went, but that 1 time in 20, it would be something special. The only trouble is, he was far more of a night owl than me, so these special events werent always to my taste and would keep me up hours later than I was comfortable with. He can just take you and chisel at you until he gets the enthusiastic, bubbly, thin dream-partner he wants out of what he sees to be a depressive heap. Theres nothing logical or reasonable about badgering your partner or dismissing their feelings. In high school, I was shy, introverted, and had low self confidence and poor social skills due to a history of being bullied in junior high and middle grade. You may not actually want to be friends with her, but civility doesn't hurt. Finally I flat out refused. We broke up, but were still friends today, and he honestly tried his best. (Side note, I knew Id keep my current partner when, about 3 hours after telling him about how I wanted to be healthier and asking him to help me, he walked in on me stress-eating a peanut-butter and chocolate chip sandwich after a particularly stressful phone call, and his only comment was You know, thatd taste better if you gave it 15 seconds in the microwave. Thats love, folks.). It Does. Those ultra-logical people can sure be jerks, but theyre not the only ones. Id say all this really depends on the details. Encouragement works so much better than harping on all the ways you could be doing more. When things improve, can the caretaker let go and not calcify your roles into The Helper and The One Who Needs Help? Hide the chips? I expect him to monitor his health and to take as much action as he can when hes feeling bad, just as LW is doing. You've forgotten your dreams. Give him some space to take care of his things and do what he needs to do before you start making demands on how much time he should be spending with you or expecting that your relationship will always come first every single time without question. This is particularly irritating to me as walking is such good exercise! Because I didn't have my phone, he started asking me these questions in person. also: breakfast for dinner is awesome and should be a part of every week Unless you dont want it to be, in which case it shouldnt! The closest he comes is But that doesnt make sense! Which, you will notice, does not contain the word you. A person who is engaged in actual logicking is thinking about statements, not persons, nor how much better they are than you. I dont think it really matters whether LWs boyfriend is doing this to try to make her non-depressed, thin or both; hes behaving in a way thats controlling and unhelpful, whatever his reasons. I feel like the most charitable view of your boyfriend is maybe someone who doesnt understand depression very well (though who knows, he may even have had first hand experience but its a mental illness that everyone experiences vastly differently) and has absorbed all the messages of exercise releases serotonin and Good Hormones so it is the Natural Cure! A common problem is people trying to push people to ignore their new physical limitations and overexert themselves, and this is really dangerous. this bit has me almost crying. Harville Hendrix has some good insights as to why we pick partners who embody what we needed but didnt get as children from our parents, and how to move toward resolving those issues. That you are so incredibly lucky and your boyfriend is a saint for dating you and youre an idiot it you let him go. I'd always known that my boyfriend was a bit insecure due to his previous partners cheating on him, but I never realized how often I would text him during the day to let him know who I was with, what I was doing, where I was, and other small things. Eat veggies! offered as a panacea for your depression sounded so much like when my fianc would tell me just drive more even on days when I was really struggling with memories of past car accidents. Does he want you not to be depressed because it would be a good thing for your mental health and stability or does he want A Girlfriend Who Doesnt Act Depressed All The Time because that would be more comfortable for him? I know I'm not perfect and made mistakes (not cheating or anything like that). I told him that, he asked me what he should do instead, and I couldnt answer him. My family hated that I smoked and were anxious about what it was doing to my health, my boyfriend hated it, my friends hated it but trying to quit for other people never worked. And I think thats a super sweet thing to do, because sometimes we need explicit cues from others that they care about us and arent secretly frowning at us. Similarly, with the do more cleaning thing theres plenty of plausible deniability, because living with someone who doesnt pick up after themselves sucks. And its going to be almost impossible to dump him because youre so invested in him but you arent going to get better if he keeps breathing down your neck. Want to have breakfast next Saturday/Catch up by Skype or phone soon? Since it sounds like your family might not be supportive, avoid them for now, and avoid all people who tend to make you feel small or sap your energy or who have the same bossy/halping tendencies as your boyfriend. Challenge your beliefs and self-defeating thoughts about your partner . LW, Im not sure if what worked for me would work for you it requires a baseline of respect that your boyfriend seems to lack. And when he realized that I wasnt counting walking as exercising but really enjoyed it, he encouraged me to think of walking as exercise, brainstormed ways WITH ME to fit it into my day more, offered to walk with me, and asked me if I wanted a pedometer (note: he did not just buy me one), 4) when I felt like I couldnt do anything but lay on the couch and rewatch TV shows Id already seen, he sat next to me and read, or watched his own shows with headphones in and just quietly let me know he was there WITHOUT JUDGEMENT. Before that I was open to a lot of possible scenarios, but anger is a red flag in this situation. A. Self improvement (vs self-care, self-discovery, living life with acceptance) involves believing something is wrong with you B. Yeah, dealing with a partners illness isnt FUN, but as you say yourself its part of the package. All the logical, reasonable, skeptical partners that the LWs describe are always trying to use their logic to make other people feel like crap about what they feel. Sorry, it posted before I was done. LW: I feel you so much in this. Piggybacking on this, just in case LWs partner is well-meaning-but-clumsy-at-expressing-his-desire-to-help and not maliciously-undermining-LW: I wonder if it would be possible, and if he were open to it, to do a few joint sessions with LWs therapist so the therapist can be a neutral party for them to air their viewpoints to and help them strategize better ways of interacting over these issues. With that said, the author adds the context that the dog was originally her ex-boyfriend's, and he had been trying to get his dog back for a while. Just continuous improvement and waiting to be happy. ), how long would you live like this? A guy might do it, but he'll typically feel like a loser or weakling for asking for support or even talking about his feelings. You cant have every day be a rest day otherwise youre not actually exercising, but they are needed or you burn out and get injured or sick. I said I agreed, and we broke things off by mutual agreement. Hell either stop talking, or hell go into a bluster-storm of What did you just say? Many sympathies. When he complains that youre not cleaning, is it because youve actually made a mess? He didnt like the way I went to the gym when we went together. Cant remember him ever doing this either. That can be so helpful. Am I the only one who says nope the fuck out of there yesterday? Make sure his action matches whatever he tells you. Then reluctantly, because I was learning my own tastes, and Im not fond of tea in any of its many flavors. They may backslide occasionally, especially when you have moments when you struggle, but when you say Hey, I got this, they are going to immediately apologize and back off. I have two of those exes and there my collection ends! And a partner who wants to opt out of working through the bad times would worry me. I think this list is a great idea! 3) when I said, I walked for twenty minutes today! If I lean my head the other way, I can see a guy who is panicking about his partner being depressed and going about it all wrong. They write because stuff is horrible and awful and they cant work out how to fix it (without breaking up). You should always have an independent life that doesnt revolve around anyone else. The relationship is no longer going anywhere, Ill let you have your way simply so we can stop talking about it. Or, if you can handle it, let them know that you think your friendship has run its course because you are at two different points in life. I thought we were going to back off on this thing where you are my trainer., What did you eat when I was out of town? Dont really have a list, but it was delicious. Maybe you can get into the routine of attending a kickboxing or yoga class twice a week together. He would say, We really need to work on your sense of adventure and getting you to be more open to new experiences. He always said we, as though this was a joint project. LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. anyone who doesnt think youre good enough does not deserve you. I think there are some other strategies you can follow that will improve things for you. Now, if he didnt react well to that, I might change it, but he says it is good to hear. Its inexcusable in any of those forms!!! I keep trying my best for him and every time I feel like he's ignoring me, I spam message him. My partner and I take walks, and thats about as far as it goes at this point. Ive also gone through some tough times with depression and needed a bit more care than I would otherwise. When its not great, things like this are no longer handled delicately If hes yelling at you over small things, there is no way his head is still in it. Dont bring past grievances into it, either. This is not one of them. My partner of 3 1/2 years has depression and anxiety, and sometimes I act as her monitor/coach/support person in some ways. Its also almost impossible to judge a situation from one account one letter, in this instance. This isnt sustainable. You know way better than any of us how useful this phrase will be. There will always be something that can be improved, because people are people, and people are imperfect. Another vote that you are not strange! Try and find the root cause of why your partner is taking it 2. A lot of the time, people feel like they need a Big Serious Reason (like I caught him bonking my sister or he burned my entire book collection then peed on the ashes) to dump someone. Yeah. If you own the decision yourself, he cant position himself as one of two potential bosses of you (the other being your therapist), because youre making it clear that YOU are the boss of you. Hes developed some very strong and unrealistic expectations about ways LW will change. But you shouldnt have to put up with constant questioning from anyone, especially when theyve been told to back off. Why do I get the feeling sometimes that an LW to Captain Awkward is actually just asking for permission to dump their partner? It's concering to me that he never wants to do anything nice together or . He may have felt too responsible for you, or that he was committed to always look after your needs. Dont be accusatory or judgmental when you do this. 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